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	<description>no expert in technology</description>
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		<title>By: Privacy and Identity Theft &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Estonia issuing Smart-cards for OpenID logins?</title>
		<link>http://notsorelevant.com/2007-05-22/openid-for-all-estonians/#comment-4591</link>
		<dc:creator>Privacy and Identity Theft &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Estonia issuing Smart-cards for OpenID logins?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 20:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is some hyperbole about this Estonian OpenID rollout. Some claim that smartcards prevent phishing, and that is not completely accurate. There&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is some hyperbole about this Estonian OpenID rollout. Some claim that smartcards prevent phishing, and that is not completely accurate. There&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OLDaily[ä¸­æ–‡ç‰ˆ] &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2007å¹´5æœˆ24æ—¥</title>
		<link>http://notsorelevant.com/2007-05-22/openid-for-all-estonians/#comment-4587</link>
		<dc:creator>OLDaily[ä¸­æ–‡ç‰ˆ] &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2007å¹´5æœˆ24æ—¥</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 17:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] è¿™é‡Œæœ‰æ›´å¤šå†…å®¹&#228;»‹ï¼ŒåŒ…æ‹¬å¯¹é—®é¢˜çš„è¯„è¿°ã€‚Simon Willison, Weblog May 24, 2007 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] è¿™é‡Œæœ‰æ›´å¤šå†…å®¹&#228;»‹ï¼ŒåŒ…æ‹¬å¯¹é—®é¢˜çš„è¯„è¿°ã€‚Simon Willison, Weblog May 24, 2007 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tara (PassPack)</title>
		<link>http://notsorelevant.com/2007-05-22/openid-for-all-estonians/#comment-4586</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara (PassPack)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 15:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; "While the eID seems to be a very comfortable authentication tool privacy issues occur, of course."

This is what I'm most concerned about. I posted about it here: 
http://passpack.wordpress.com/2007/05/25/openid-a-great-thing-going-amok/

Cheers,
Tara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; &#8220;While the eID seems to be a very comfortable authentication tool privacy issues occur, of course.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is what I&#8217;m most concerned about. I posted about it here:<br />
<a href="http://passpack.wordpress.com/2007/05/25/openid-a-great-thing-going-amok/" >http://passpack.wordpress.com/2007/05/25/openid-a-great-thing-going-amok/</a></p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Tara</p>
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		<title>By: OpenID: A great thing... going amok? &#171; PassPack - The Blog</title>
		<link>http://notsorelevant.com/2007-05-22/openid-for-all-estonians/#comment-4585</link>
		<dc:creator>OpenID: A great thing... going amok? &#171; PassPack - The Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 15:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 25th, 2007   I recently came across Carsten PÃ¶tter&#8217;s post OpenID for all Estonians wherein he writes about a nationwide implementation of OpenID in Estonia. Citizens and foreign [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 25th, 2007   I recently came across Carsten PÃ¶tter&#8217;s post OpenID for all Estonians wherein he writes about a nationwide implementation of OpenID in Estonia. Citizens and foreign [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Paljak</title>
		<link>http://notsorelevant.com/2007-05-22/openid-for-all-estonians/#comment-4580</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Paljak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 23:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally found some time and willingness to write a blog post in English. It covers the same subject and might be of interest. &lt;a href="http://martin.paljak.pri.ee/2007/05/25/openid-smart-cards-and-security-risks/"&gt;http://martin.paljak.pri.ee/2007/05/25/openid-smart-cards-and-security-risks/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally found some time and willingness to write a blog post in English. It covers the same subject and might be of interest. <a href="http://martin.paljak.pri.ee/2007/05/25/openid-smart-cards-and-security-risks/">http://martin.paljak.pri.ee/2007/05/25/openid-smart-cards-and-security-risks/</a></p>
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		<title>By: pauldwaite</title>
		<link>http://notsorelevant.com/2007-05-22/openid-for-all-estonians/#comment-4579</link>
		<dc:creator>pauldwaite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 22:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; I guess I have to erase the word â€œimpossibleâ€? from my vocabulary now.

When describing how easy it is to break into any computer system, then yeah, I think so :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I guess I have to erase the word â€œimpossibleâ€? from my vocabulary now.</p>
<p>When describing how easy it is to break into any computer system, then yeah, I think so <img src='http://notsorelevant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Carsten PÃ¶tter</title>
		<link>http://notsorelevant.com/2007-05-22/openid-for-all-estonians/#comment-4578</link>
		<dc:creator>Carsten PÃ¶tter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 21:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I have to erase the word &lt;em&gt;impossible&lt;/em&gt; from my vocabulary now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I have to erase the word <em>impossible</em> from my vocabulary now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Wilcox</title>
		<link>http://notsorelevant.com/2007-05-22/openid-for-all-estonians/#comment-4577</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 21:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've written my own response here with examples of how this system could break at
http://blogs.oracle.com/mwilcox/2007/05/24#a149</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve written my own response here with examples of how this system could break at<br />
<a href="http://blogs.oracle.com/mwilcox/2007/05/24#a149" >http://blogs.oracle.com/mwilcox/2007/05/24#a149</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://notsorelevant.com/2007-05-22/openid-for-all-estonians/#comment-4576</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 21:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the smart cards are a form of 2FA.  So only 1 part of the 2 factors is ever exposed.  Even if a MITM was to intercept a request the value is only valid for that point in time so useless when trying to replay a request or use it another time.  That's probably a simplification of how it works...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the smart cards are a form of 2FA.  So only 1 part of the 2 factors is ever exposed.  Even if a MITM was to intercept a request the value is only valid for that point in time so useless when trying to replay a request or use it another time.  That&#8217;s probably a simplification of how it works&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Carsten PÃ¶tter</title>
		<link>http://notsorelevant.com/2007-05-22/openid-for-all-estonians/#comment-4572</link>
		<dc:creator>Carsten PÃ¶tter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 16:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, &lt;a href="http://simonwillison.net/2007/May/24/openid/"&gt;Simon Willison is asking a similar question&lt;/a&gt;. So am I really completely wrong? As far as I know scammers need a smart card as well to log in even if they know my password.

Anyone more knowledegable about smart cards than me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, <a href="http://simonwillison.net/2007/May/24/openid/">Simon Willison is asking a similar question</a>. So am I really completely wrong? As far as I know scammers need a smart card as well to log in even if they know my password.</p>
<p>Anyone more knowledegable about smart cards than me?</p>
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